Hello; Qpid has an advertisment that I have read twice. It is on the internet, sometimes, and clearly is identified to be from them. It is a advertisment for women to enroll with them and they are promised generous commissions for getting their "gentlemen clients" to write back and forth to them. Not all women on the four sites do that, and many of them carry on that way, with certain guys. So, if a Ukrainian woman 23 years of age, or anything close to it, writes something sweet to a guy 64 years of age, for instance, it is likely that she is getting a commission if you read her letter, or write back or chat with her, and she gets a commission for other things such as gifts and pictures looked at. So, beware, that is the truth. I don't have the web-page URL, but I found it twice.

But, the same women may act ethical with a guy 34 years old. There are some younger woman, like 18 or and older, who do want to have sexual experiences, but they probably are commission takers too. Some maybe not, but there is no way to tell.

Also, there are numerous lesbians on these sites, but, often they do not know it themselves. How to determine that fact is tough. But, if you do write or chat in a sexy way, they may reply similarly, but over time "when they have you hooked" they will probably reply to your letters via short replies. She might be very nice looking, but as part of her behavior she might be disinhibited and antisocial. The last term means that she can break social mores, customs, and can lie without remorse.

Another thing I've learned, I never go to a foreign country to see a woman unless I "want to travel there as a tourist and unless I can easily afford it. Why, many, maybe most, women are lookers. They "may" have a feeling that they "might" have chemistry with you. You might get one date and if they don't have that "woman's chemistry" they won't answer any e-mails and there you are in Nikolaev, or some other place, twiddling your thumbs. There are those who will meet you, have you give them a good time, restaurants, beach, movies, soccer games, and then disappear. They probably don't have enough money to do those things by themselves, so they get a treat and then disappear after a few days. The "big disappearing act" is common.

I've traveled to many countries over the last 10 years: 25 or so. As I say, communicating and meeting a foreign woman is secondary to me, because I know the system is so dicey. I traveled to China to meet a lady in Shenzhen. She didn't show up at the hotel we made plans for. She wouldn't answer her e-mails. She might have been married and/or, had a child and was just making Qpid money via encouraging letters back and forth. But, I had a great vacation for five weeks in China and ten days in Vietnam. So, no harm done.

If a person has a long-term letter-writing and chat relationship tons of money could be wasted with the gals who do the disappearing act. So, short connections are best.

I traveled to nine countries in S. E. Europe and during the trip I traveled to Crimea on a Russian Federation visa. The lady looked just like her pictures, dressed very nice, seemed friendly, but even though she listed that she spoke English, she said she wanted an interpreter. So, four dates, four interpreters, and they were "very expensive". I bought lunches, dinners, tickets to the porpoise show, for all three of us. I wanted to move to a hotel closer to where she lived and she suggested one. I arrived, the contract was shown to me, it was written in Russian. I looked at the bottom line and the price was there for five days: $365.00. Well that was high for there, but it was a sea shore hotel. But, after a day and one half I found out that it was $365.00/night. Well, I left at 5:00 AM. and left a check for $120.00 for two nights. I am sure that was a set up wherein the lady was going to get a good kick-back. Also, it takes awhile to get used to value dealing with a foreign currency, especially, when a person is transiting different countries close together. But, four dates, but not a kiss or a holding of hands: interpreters act as chaperones! Well, my visa was over and I left and contacted her in when I got to Odessa. She said she didn't have "chemistry" with me. Then, later she wanted to re-establiish the relationship. But, that was a ploy to get more kick-back money. Thinking about the elements: the lack of ethics, the lack of any affection, the rather short notes she wrote during the last few weeks, the fact that she was a very pretty lady and was divorced. Well, such woman just don't have the capability to act in a naturally affectionate way. Usually, they do not know they are lesbians. Homosexuality is a variable syndrome, too.

I had never been to South America, so, I decided to travel to Colombia. Then, I went online and met a nice lady on latumdate. She was 35. She had a sympathy story: She had had a child with her boy friend. Her parents were wealthy many businesses. The father didn't like her live-in boyfriend and convinced her to give her child up to the late boy friend's parents, who wanted to rear it because their only child died. The father recently died of a heart attack, a year later the mother died of heart break, but later it was cancer. Those adverse episodes were not told to me close together, so it wasn't so obvious that she was using sympathy to get me to write back and forth. After about six weeks I left for Colombia; I had had the ticket for three months. When I got to LA from Seattle, she wrote that she was sick and for me to delay my trip. I had a non-refundable trip and I wanted to go to Colombia anyway. I flew to Miami and got a message that her doctor was sending her to a hospital in the USA... somewhere. I flew to Medellin and got a hotel, nice one w/ breakfast for about $27.00/night in the nice area of the city. I liked Medellin. She had told me she inherited a chain of beauty shops and fitness centers. I bugged her to tell me the name of the shops. She sent me a picture of one. By chance I found it when I wasn't looking for it and the people working in it had never heard her name. Eventually, she wrote that she was in Massachucetts general hospital for some lung ailment. Everything was vague. Well, that was enough for me. As soon as I got the message that she wanted me to delay the trip I knew she was a hoax. That is a modification of the "disappearing act" What is the bottom line: making money on Qpid, probably. I stayed in Colombia for two months and rode busses from coast to coast. I really liked the country in many ways. Cartagena, Medellin, El Jardine are nice places and others too. Lots of expats I met there.

I'll say this, NEVER be so enthused that you lose judgement. Lonliness and horneyness can make a guy lose his judgement. Some of the comments about "oh, the woman are so friendly on this or that site... are nuts. There are probably 35% honest women, often older women who dress normally, 50% who are making money and "may" be honest with a certain type of guy, 15% young women: 18-24 +/- who mainly want to sex-talk... and they could be making money, too.

The basic thing to think about is that a man cannot "authenticate one thing" about a woman, so "beware" and don't fall on your $#*! in love on the internet. Second, never travel to a country unless you want to go there anyway... and you can afford it. The Qpid system is based in Hong Kong. The charges clear through a Macau Bank. Macau is 'the": gambling center of China. There is no better way than to make money "gambling on love".

I've spent some money dealing with these sites, but I can afford it. Better than the $830,000.00 that my last USA wife cost me.

I know from actual experience of dealing with this site, and several women here, that these positive reviews are not at all factual, or the norm. But instead, surely written and planted by the site itself. There may be a few agencies that still conduct themselves honestly, but if so, they are like finding a needle in a haystack.
I have been to Vietnam, and not one lady of several I corresponded with met me, and I stayed there for two and a half months continually. All of them always had some lame excuse for their not being able to make their scheduled meeting, but if I trusted them more and rescheduled, you guessed it, they never show.
Actually, this deception seems to be getting so common on this site, I have considered soliciting for other men that have also experienced the same as me, and file a class action law suit against the website, and any agencies these deceitful practices are their normal course of business.
I will give you an example of one of the newer agencies that have recently started. I am sure, this growth in number of agencies is due to how lucrative this deception has come to be known, when it is the mainstay practice of the agency.
One newly started agency in Vietnam, grew by 900+ profiles in the first nine months they were in business. I think anyone would agree, that have seen their work, that their photos and videos shot of these young women were done very professionally.
However, I had been told, more than once, no fee ever, is charged at all, to provide this service to the ladies. Over time I spent observing the behavior of this agency, it seems obvious to me, their main objective is to generate activity from the profiles, with no actual goal of providing an opportunity for the ladies in the profile to find a husband.
Also, about this agency, I had an employee, or ex-employee write me at my personal email ( they must have copied my information off site records), they must have had a conscious, because in there email, they were direct, and told me all the women there were used as a scam. At that time, however, I even doubted that 100% of the ladies profiles were used for deceitful purposes.
Regretfully, I have spent thousands of dollars, over the years at this site, and others run by this same company.
Someone may ask, why I remained, trying to use the original sister site, and later added sites, run by the same company. My answer is, in earlier years, the deceptive agencies did not seem as widespread, as what it has currently grown to become.
Personally, my experience here in the earlier years, I contributed to just bad luck, until I finally realized there were too many coincidences.
Honestly, my experience with the original site and the later sister sites, I could fill a large book with negative, very questionable results.
If you are considering using this site, or those affiliated with it, I would look elsewhere, and besides, you will find, your costs do not have to be as great as what these sites cost a man. Good luck! I hope your luck is much better than mine has been. These sites have robbed me of my money and, even greater loss, my time! My suggestion, avoid them like a life sucking addiction!

Scam Scam Scam

Firstly can I please draw everyone's attention to the review of "Gregory L" above. Nice story, Greg, mate, problem for me personally is you grammar and sentence structure sounds like that of a middle aged Chinese man to me and with that glowing report sticking out like dogsbal** among all the single star banners... well you get where I'm coming from.

Second point, sorry Greg, buddy, pal, BS artist, Nguyen is indeed a Vietnamese name, a bloody surname! Not and I repeat not a female christian name. Its the most common Vietnamese surname there is, akin to smith.

Now that I've bashed "Greg" a L... ittle, may I please refer you all to every other post on this page with a rating higher than 1 star, or "total f****** $#*!" is the technical classification I think. All of them above 1 star are so clearly:
1. Fake reviews;
2. Reviews of those poor little souls among us who have bigger egos than brains and wallets than balls to accept and admit yes it happened to them too no matter how "on to it" they believe they are;
3. Guys who so much need to believe in it, that it is true, she does love me, that unfortunately the shi*reel of reviews sized up against the fact they have been in a six month relationship without ever seeing the woman let alone getting laid (God forbid people still just want to have sex these days, men and women equally, without the scam foreplay first) still just hasn't clicked yet. Because that's self-harm territory so who would want to take the trip there. For these gentlemen, I am sorry to you and I hope you move forward with pride again asap. Seriously not everyone can cop it on the chin like others. This sort of scam activity could literally lead to the tragic suicide of many middle age, bald, fat divorcee left with only half and his kids hate him, if half.

Then there is the rest of us who got ****** in all the worst ways. I'm disgraced to admit I got spun for a grand total of about USD170 over 3-4 days. 3 days in actually was when the first evidence started to surface then at 3.75 days my fears were realised. I was hopeful let me tell you. One particular girl, felt like I picked her not the other way, consistent to start but then:

1. Asked her real name she hesitates and tries to move past it but I get Minh out of her. Trouble is she apparently lives in Ho Chi Minh City, not very quick my dear. Notice how they all live in Ho Chi Minh City?;
2. I asked what she did for work and she tells me bank cashier. While browsing other profiles earlier I had noticed another girl claim to have a high steady income as a bank teller as though its like being a rocket surgeon (intended);

Doesn't sound like much hey? Call me a critic but hairs were already on end with a snarl forming

3. Going by the times she is telling me it is there when we are chatting, within 2 days I already notice a distinct patter that she goes to work late morning and comes home very late evening at like 10pm. Not standard bank hours? If she told me she was a hooker after 5pm til 10pm I would have understood! I believe there was a slip her end at this point too, said something like do this or that then work at bank then go to work... no wonder I started day dreaming about hookers;
4. Finally, and its still such a ******* disappointment, I can't even begin to tell you, shes says she wants to be my girlfriend exclusively and even gets genuinely jealous when I mention other girls from the site? Still puzzled on that? At this exact time I decide its time to smoke her out if my instincts are correct and I say something like if we are going to continue talking more and more and have a relationship (FFS!) then its not going to be on that site because I could buy Vietnam for 1 days worth of PM chat on that bag of ****. I suggest email, IM, skype... she doesnt know them or use any of them. I say you don't know Google! Not possible. She says no I don't know it we dont use it here. BS! I kniow they do its not China its $#*!ing Vietnam where you will still see ******* times more USA flags than anything plain red. Even in the north, almost.

This is where I call her out, say its a scam and no more credit, no more nothing, I gave her my gmail by coding it in a hundred one line messages which she confirmed she got clear after their star blocking attempts and I left her with, email me there to prove your not a robot or go **** yourself. She said too tired tonight now baby I will email you tomorrow for sure ok? Tomorrow will be Today! We will see but take my word, its a ******* con! If it is I'm getting on a plane next week to Ho Chi Minh City and I'll start burning the **** down from the airport making my way to the hotel and not leave until Vietnam 2 has ended. Ill get some on met* as the cherry on top to numb my joy... good morning Vietnam!

* Massive scam everyone don't go near idate Asia with a 10 foot pole*

Hi to whom maybe ripped off!

O. k a breakdown on what you pay for, you buy credits for writing and receiving emails
I thought W. T. F are you kidding o k I'll give it a go but I tell you these credits go fast that's the problem depending on how many credits you buy depends on the cost but they average
5 to 6 dollars each right.

If you send an email 1 credit so that's $5 to send and receive there's $10 dollars already.
So 50 emails later $500 dollars yep easily done right.

I nearly had a heart attack get this!, that's only emails they also charge for chatting on the site. The cost is 0.5 credits (2.50) per 5 minutes. Say chat for 30 minutes that's 30 divide by 5 = 6 x $ 2.50 = $15.
The list goes on if you want her details say email address only one piece of information
That's 10 credits but only after 90 days and only after 10 emails.

Massive money pit right!

The site is totally and utterly manipulated by them to make lots of money and
I did ask for a ladies information and they gave me a fake email address with this written in it after I wrote several times wondering why this girl wasn't answering my emails.
This is what the returned email said.

Dear Joe blogs,

I had read your email already, and I know what you mean now. I am so happy to see your letter here. But I am not use this email often, and I consider that it is convenient for us to communicate in that web site.
In that web site, we can chat anywhere any time, but if we use this email, I am not familiar with the procedure, so I do not often use it. Can you understand?
Because my phone has not the international service, It is no sense to give you my number, OK? So we can chat on line or call, OK? Darling?

As you can see I asked for her phone number so I could ring her direct or skype.
It is obviously the site and not her, so I have to beg for her number which they say is only local so she cant get international calls. That statement of course makes no sense at all
Because I have rung her from what they call the lady call me function.

That puppy costs you a bloody arm and a leg as well I timed one call and recorded it as well it went for 12 minutes which they charged $5.60 a minute because again you have to use there service. Another $67 dollars.

I think that the girl maybe be real but who's chatting I'm not sure I think is fake too
As I have had experiences where her English skills varied to much.

Listen I'm very sure its a scam to really just take so much money.
They make it so damned hard to actually be in contact with her its so frustrating you spend a fortune and if her English skills are not brilliant you will go insane I'm sure.

I looked at a couple of the woman's videos at first and some of them are wearing the same dress it's a joke.And they charge 2 or 3 credits for that too its an insane money pit.

If you want a site to go to Thai kisses is fine you pay a small fee each month and you can get hundreds of contact numbers emails skype for as much as you want they have chat which is free if your a member and I'm not saying it's scam free but the site is great with there security. They find out very fast and banned most of the women on there that are scamming as well.Its a very fair site and it doesn't cost you hundreds or thousands of dollars.

I have been to Thailand at least 7 times and I have family there as I married a Thai lady
She is awesome we split and were together for 6 years she wanted kids I didn't but we are so close still like family it's great, that's why I want to find a Thai girlfriend again as they are awesome women really loyal, kind and understanding.

Just be careful guy's don't spend a cent on these corporate money grabber sites who only have their eyes on your hard earned cash.

Listen to me from experience I thought I was well versed in these sites and have dealt with a couple and not lost a cent but this one pulls you in and you just can get sucked in really
Easily.

Good luck and stay away from that site its EVIL! Lol

With regards to iDateAsia, I would say stay away. When I first became a member of the site, I read a mixed review of comments but mainly negative comments but I still decided to look into it and see for myself. I will try to keep this as simple as possible but basically I did meet this woman. Sent her a cupid note for free and she immediately replied back. I saw her online and initiated a chat and we chatted for about $21.00 US dollars worth, no longer than 15 minutes I would say and during the conversation, she kept giving me the "l Love You" and "Kissy Kissy" icons. At the end of the conversation, I told her I would write to her and she would wait for my letter.

Okay, during the wait, I explored another website; the kind of site where you pay a monthly fee to purchase either a Gold or Platinum membership depending on how much you want to spend. Of course to join is free and you are a Standard member which doesn't give you much flexibility. I purchase this Gold membership for one month; $29.95, you can send as many letters as you want, respond to as many as you want, you get chat capabilities, the works. As I was looking at the profiles, I noticed a profile of the same woman I was speaking to on iDateAsia. Well, it is possible for a woman to be on more than one site so I contacted her and she responded. I asked her had she been on any other site and she replied to me she had been on iDateAsia.com recently but had given notice to the agency that she did not wish to use their services anymore since after careful consideration she thought the fee they were charging her to use their services was too expensive. I told her I just spoke to her on iDateAsia and she said it could not have been her. I told her I am looking at her profile now on iDateAsia. She replied back in surprise as WHAT?

She immediately asked me did I have SKYPE and I told her yes and we exchanged SKYPE information and once we each activated SKYPE and our cam, there she was. We introduced ourselves and I panned my CAM to my monitor to show her the profile on iDateAsia and the photos. She said, yes, that was her and it was her photos, but she had told the agency to delete her profile since she would not be using their services because of the payment she could not afford and would look on her own which is why she was on the site that I found her on. During the course of the conversation, she took me to a tour of her home, the garden, showing me her vehicle and the exterior of her home in the pictures she had submitted to iDateAsia.

We both decided that I would send this person pretending to be her a letter which I did. Now I asked this liar whomever it was had she ever been on another site and the response I received was "No, she only been on iDateAsia". I knew this person was lying since I contacted the real person on a website called thailovelinks.com

To make a long story short, this agency on iDateAsia is still using a profile of a woman that has left the site. Whomever I was writing and talking to is pretending to be this woman because I am met the real woman on thailovelinks.com, we exchanged e-mails, phone numbers and SKYPE and she has since sent me several photos. Here is another lie this person from iDateAsia told me. In the response letter, she says sorry for responding so late because her mother was critically ill and in the hospital. When I told this to the real woman I was speaking to, she was appalled and upset and said to me her mother is in good health and sent me photos, dated of a family gathering she had just two weeks ago and pointed out her mom in most of the photos, looking in good spirits and smiling.

So guys, whomever I am speaking to on iDateAsia, it is not the woman I saw on the profile; so take my advice; be cautious. I am not saying that every agency is corrupt and every profile is fake, but you cannot take a chance since you are spending your hard earned money. Another thing about iDateAsia profiles, in the woman's profile they do not list the agencies representing the woman. If you look at Chn. Love, although I cannot trust them either, you will see they list at the bottom of the woman's profile the name of the agency.

Well, getting back to iDateAsia.com, after this experience of talking to this fake person, spending money on letters and a chat, I wrote my full story to the administrator, giving them the profile ID number of the woman I contacted on iDateAsia and letting them know I contacted the real woman on another site. I let the administrator know that I know this is the real woman because we had a video chat, exchanged phone numbers and e-mail contacts and that she admitted it was her profile but the agency on iDateAsia had no right to keep it up and deceive men as if she was still there and add insult to injury, to have the nerve to have someone pretending to be her in an effort to keep men spending their money. I am curious to see what the administrator tells me. I even included an additional photo iDateAsia does not have to prove to them I am in contact with the real woman. So I ask myself... just who is this on iDateAsia pretending to be this woman?

Basically, I have been speaking to three different women, but now because of this, if these other women were real, I sent them all letters explaining why I could not continue speaking to them. I included in my letter they may be real and the agencies may be honest, but unfortunately I cannot take that chance and it is sad because this type of deception and fraud makes it bad for the honest people so I just left it at that.

So guys, if you are speaking to someone, even on the chat line, beware because chances are it could be the woman and chances are it could not be. These type of experiences show me that you cannot trust a profile or pictures, even with an agency who happens to be overseas. You need further proof and having a video chat is the only way to go but if these sites give you that option, believe me, you will pay an arm and a leg for it.

Okay, I gave you my birds eye, hard evidence of iDateAsia being deceptive and that was all the evidence I needed to say "stay away". There are other sites out there guys and as I said, for a small monthly fee, you can write to as many women as you choose, they can write you, you can respond, there is a chat line and look at me; I was able to see the woman in SKYPE on my first initial message.

Good luck and just beware!

This review applies to dating websites such as idateasia.com and chnlove.com. If you want to know how websites such as these work, here's the inside story. The websites are run out of China, and they claim to use local dating services to find Chinese girls in cities throughout China (or whatever country the girl is supposedly from). They also claim that they give your letter to the local dating service that is associated with the girl you are writing to (after you pay in tokens to write the letter), after which your letter is supposedly translated into Chinese (which costs extra and is paid by you in tokens) and then given to the girl you're writing to. Her reply is supposedly given to this same local dating service and translated into English (which, again, requires payment by you in tokens), before being sent to the dating website and placed in your inbox (which requires additional tokens to then read). In fact, they'll even give you the name of the "supposed" local dating service on their website in order to make the dating website appear legit. The problem is that these local dating services either do not exist or have no association with the dating website. Furthermore, the girls themselves don't exist. In fact, none of what you see on these dating websites actually exists. The photos are all stolen from websites in China (or other countries), without the girls' permission, or from websites in China that simply contain photos of girls. These photos are then placed on the dating website along with a fake profile in order to entice foreign men with money to burn. This is precisely why they use the "token" system whereby you must purchase packages of tokens and then use a particular number of tokens to send a letter, more tokens to have your letter translated into Chinese, still more tokens to have her reply translated into English, and finally more token for you to read her reply. But you see, there is no "her" and your letter is never translated. In fact, the replies that the girls supposedly write to you are pulled from a database of letters that are recycled again and again as replies to different men. A change might be made here and there, but the reply letters largely remain unchanged. Of course most men don't continue writing to any one girl long enough to figure out that the entire website is a scam. The letters are general enough to be useful as a reply to a wide variety of letters from men, but not specific enough to keep a man interested for very long. This way the man moves on to another girl, spending more tokens on an endless search for a woman that does not exist. These websites are pure scams and there are many of them on the net. How do you spot the scams? First, if the website uses the "token" system and requires you to buy packages of tokens (or whatever term that website uses), don't walk, RUN. No legit dating website uses this ploy. The legit services require a monthly subscription and don't provide translation services. (unless this is a legit matchmaking service) Second, if you receive a reply from a girl and the reply seems very "general" in that it makes no mention of any of the specifics in your letter, this is a sure sign that you're a member of a scam dating website. Third, if you ask her specifics about herself and instead she gives you only generalities about her life, she likely does not exist and your letter is coming from a database of letters. Unfortunately once you've been had, you have no recourse. There is no way to report the scam to any agencies that will recover your losses since the website in China and only the Chinese authorities can touch them (and this is not going to happen). You can only walk away, see this as a lesson learned, and warn others. Hopefully you've read this review before investing your money in a scam dating website. Best of luck with your search.